MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin scolded frequent anti-Trump MSNBC guest George Conway on Saturday after he made a comment on X (formerly Twitter) that was clearly about Donald Trump attorney Alina Habba.
After the verdict against Trump in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case on Friday, Habba has faced enormous criticism and some ridicule, including from other former Trump attorneys, for losing the case and for what MSNBC’s Michael Steele called her “performative” defense.
Conway was naturally among the vocal critics, and on Saturday took a shot at Habba without typing out her name, although the object of his ridicule was not lost on anyone who replied — including MSNBC’s Rubin.
“I was gonna tweet ‘silicone doesn’t make you smart’ in response to something on here but I thought better of it and didn’t do it and I’m not gonna say whom it was about😇,” he wrote, sending the dig at Habba’s appearance and implication she’s had plastic surgery on her breasts by saying he wasn’t sending it.
I was gonna tweet “silicone doesn’t make you smart” in response to something on here but I thought better of it and didn’t do it and I’m not gonna say whom it was about 😇
— George Conway (@gtconway3 on threads.net) (@gtconway3d) January 27, 2024
Like everyone who read the comment and everyone who replied, Rubin missed no part of the insult was mistaken or mysterious, and responded in defense of Habba.
“You know that in many respects you and I agree on our legal analysis. But here’s one place where we diverge silicone may not make anyone smarter, but it doesn’t make anyone dumber or weaker either,” said Rubin. “Shaming women for their looks and/or aesthetic choices in this still deeply misogynistic world is no more cool when directed to women loyal to Donald Trump than it is when applied to E. Jean Carroll and her allies.”
You know that in many respects you and I agree on our legal analysis. But here’s one place where we diverge silicone may not make anyone smarter, but it doesn’t make anyone dumber or weaker either. 1/
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
Shaming women for their looks and/or aesthetic choices in this still deeply misogynistic world is no more cool when directed to women loyal to Donald Trump than it is when applied to E. Jean Carroll and her allies. 2/
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
With the meaning plain, a few moments later Rubin tempered her comments by saying she knows Conway “to be genuinely invested in women’s autonomy and professional success, including mine.”
That said, I am adding my two cents because I know you to be genuinely invested in women’s autonomy and professional success, including mine. Fair?
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
Conway then replied with a lengthy response in which he said he wasn’t doing the thing he was apologizing for doing, and repeatedly pointed out he never said a name, wink wink, before referring specifically to a comment made by Habba recently on whether being attractive has helped her in her career, in order to make it clear that the person he claimed he wasn’t identifying had it coming anyway.
Fair, Lisa. I’m sorry if I offended you, or anyone else. In truth, I don’t question the attractiveness of any person, including (and especially, I confess) the person who I could have been referring to, and don’t seek to shame anyone for their looks or aesthetic choices (with the exception of people who have a penchant for wearing unnaturally orange makeup(.
But if someone—again, not specifying who that might be—were to suggest that it’s better for a woman to better pretty rather than smart, because a woman could fake being smart, I think that person deserves a little grief for that, even though I didn’t specify whom that might be. Particularly if that person engaged in idiotic and exceedingly mendacious behavior before a court of law and the public at large. Speaking hypothetically of course.
Again, I apologize if I’ve given offense. If I had named anyone in the tweet I would take it down. But since I didn’t, I’ll let it stand and I’ll own the lumps.
Rubin responded that she wasn’t offended, and agreed that “smart beats pretty” in her wrap-up response. To which Conway replied with an emoji.
Appreciated (even though no offense taken.) And fully agreed that smart beats pretty every day of the week. As I told one of my girls last week, pretty fades; smart & funny lasts. Xx
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
💯
— George Conway (@gtconway3 on threads.net) (@gtconway3d) January 27, 2024
Others in the replies were equally not mystified by what Conway was saying and disagreed with Rubin that there was anything wrong with it.
Hey, Lisa. Woman here. And agree with you on the whole. But for these shameless, Stepford Wives, who want to hang around these criminals, support these rapists & pretend like we’re all the problem, I have no problem with it.
Not to mention when it comes to the former rapist in…
— WTFGOP (@DogginTrump) January 27, 2024
Yes, but coupled with her own comments about “pretty” trumping (sorry) smarts, it’s not a crazy assumption that her priorities and where she directs her focus might be out of balance.
— Allegra Wilde (@allegrawilde on Threads) (@allegrawilde) January 27, 2024
This is actually a more complicated issue than it would be normally. (And I say this is someone who loves a good plastic surgeon!). Habba’s look is a good part of the reason she’s Trump’s lawyer. He likes performative feminity. Before all the surgery we wouldn’t even be…
— Judith Newman (@judithn111) January 27, 2024
For her part, Rubin in a separate tweet thread pointed out that misogyny isn’t specific to any political party or political viewpoint. She did not specify whom the comments were about or prompted by.
A reminder to anyone celebrating the @ejeancarroll verdict: Misogyny has no political party, as evidenced by yesterday’s @USDOJ report on Andrew Cuomo’s treatment of his employees and this month’s release of hundreds of docs from the Epstein saga. 1/
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
Democrats & Republicans alike can abuse and have abused women. Trump might be unique for the sheer number of women who have credibly accused him of sexual assault—but sexual violence & misconduct are about power, not party. FIN.
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) January 27, 2024
Still, despite the apparent resolution, a little while later Conway responded favorably to a tweet about Habba’s appearance.
Pro tip: don’t choose your lawyer based on how she looks in a bikini. https://t.co/CWsicGAd76
— Gayton Gomez🇺🇦 (@gpgomez) January 27, 2024
Interesting advice
— George Conway (@gtconway3 on threads.net) (@gtconway3d) January 27, 2024
“Interesting” is certainly a word to use for the series of events.
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