Ray Isle:
Yes, and then so the Coudoulet de Beaucastel.
Chateau de Beaucastel, it’s one of my favorite quotes in the book. Chateau de Beaucastel is one of the great chateau nouveau producers in France. They have been farming organically since 1950. They have never put it on the label.
And Marc Perrin, who’s the family that owns it, said to me, his father said to him there are the people who go to church because they believe and there are the people who go to church so they can tell everybody they went to church.
So they have been organic for a long time. They don’t promote it, but that’s — they believe in it. And it’s just a gorgeous Southern Rhone red, rich fruit, lots of power, lots of flavor, sort of perfect for cold weather.
And then Lyndenhurst. Spottswoode is one of the great Napa Valley wineries. Their top cabernet costs a lot, but it’s a great cabernet. They too have been — they’re in the early wave of sort of organic farming in Napa back in the 1990s.
But their Lyndenhurst wine, which is their affordable cabernet, is — it’s a beautiful bottle of cabernet, really elegant and focused perfectly. And I say — when you talk about organic grape growing, that’s not a flavor. It doesn’t — the wine won’t taste different or weird compared to a normal Napa cabernet.
It’s really a philosophy and approach to the land and a way of farming that doesn’t involve a lot of agrochemicals.